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Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:33

Hi all,

Last year we purchased what was meant to be 4 f1 petrotilapia tridentiger, but definitely don't think they are!

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Any ideas please
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: vinboy » Sat Feb 16, 2013 15:19

Have not a clue but still very nice :good: What sex do you have?
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Feb 16, 2013 15:23

We are thinking 2 males and 2 females, I agree vinny we both like them but would just like to know exactly what they are :roll:

Tbh I'm not convinced they are petros :cryy
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumpette » Sat Feb 16, 2013 16:41

Here is another photo

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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: Ray » Sat Feb 16, 2013 16:52

looks like a callainos Chitande to me lee
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Feb 16, 2013 19:47

I have said since we had them that there not petros :roll:

I do like them just a bit peed off that the person sold them as petros, who you would think would know better :aarggh
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:21

Just having a look in the bible (4th edition ) as Colin seems to think they estherae? And I'm thinking if they are then they are not Minos reef as the females are a brown colour ( unless they are male :roll: ) so with this in mind I think they could be estherae chiloelo!

Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:49

A couple of pics from the 4th edition of the chiloelo

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What do you think?
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: Nads » Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:59

Have a look at met. benetos as well
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Mar 09, 2013 13:34

Colin seems to think there estherae but thought they were Minos reef! I said the females are brown but not sure they are females has have not vented them!

Will have a look at those nads thanks :good:
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: Nads » Sat Mar 09, 2013 14:44

The male pic's above definitely indicate estherae but not come across brown females before
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: Graham » Sat Mar 09, 2013 15:19

Nads wrote:The male pic's above definitely indicate estherae but not come across brown females before


The brown morph estherae females are pretty damned rare at Minos Reef. In fact I think Konings has said he's never seen one there. But on other reefs they are more common so it in their genes so to speak. Matt had a brown morph female and I think it was an F1 Minos from typical Minos parents and he was rearing some fry from it. Hopefully he drop across this thread soon.
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Mar 09, 2013 16:33

Forgot about that thread graham :good:

Will have to contact Matt and see what he says :good:
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: trumps » Sat Mar 09, 2013 18:20

Here is a pic of what I think is a female

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Might have a breakthrough as I think Matt has had some brown fry from his Minos reef pair :pray
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Re: Help with Id please

PostAuthor: matt_harry_harrison » Sat Mar 09, 2013 21:03

I wondered if my brown female would crop up here !

She came originally from a group of f1 fish via a past member on here who specialised in Estherea, at about 1/2 " - and was thought to be a male at the time, certainly she looked exactly like her male counterparts. The rest of the group have done really well, but sadly I lost her a few months back. Being away from home I didn't move her into a brooding tank for the last brood and I think my males must have given her a very hard time. I got home to late to do much :cryy It was interesting to note that all males "preferred" her to the orange and OB morphs that shared the tank... inluding some F1 boys from NW.

I did grow on the last batch of fry from her - and there were no orange fry, these have recently been exchanged at the Aquatic design Centre (as TB Estherea - unknown locale - so I was very upfront on their lineage..)

I have kept two back to get them to adult but as far as I can tell the males will be blue. Certainly the dorsal fin has a fabulous blue to it - but being mixed in with Afra Cobue / Ps Polit's they aren't being allowed to colour up too much.

From what I understand the male preference to the brown female maybe significant - but I am no fish scientist to understand why......anyone able to enlighten us? Oh and from my experience you will need to be careful if she does spawn as the boys don't give in easily !

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